the murdochs basically drew a line in the sand at the hearings in britain a couple days ago. there's a lot of terrible things going on, a lot of people are culpable, but we didn't know about it. they did a good job i thought. the problem with the story, it's got to stand up. if it stands up, they escape. if it doesn't, they're in big trouble. some of the executives blamed, are saying, hey, we told james murdoch, james murdoch didn't understand why they paid people off, he was new at the job, he agreed to go along with it. the legal manager and the former editor of the "news of the world," two very senior executives at news international have issued aut!ñ statement say that's not true, we actually briefed him in detail on, he knew exactly what was happening. it's not clear if that's the sort of start or trend and people are concerned and say the murdochs got it all wrong and they were lying basically to parliament, then they're in big trouble. >> with all you know and your experience, you working in the community, do the murdoch statements align with what you've heard about r